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Response To Steven Crowder: The Quran Challenge
…Voice-over Steven Crowder…
“The most controversial videos that I’ve ever done would have to be the Quran Challenge”.
It’s beginning to get really boring, it’s like whoever wants to get famous or make a name for themselves the first thing they do is go ahead and make a video on YouTube about the evil side of Islam or the evil prophet of War.
…Voice-over Steven Crowder…
“Islam the religion of Peace - Allahu - FAIL”
And I understand that you’re a minority and there’s not that many people like you that are as ignorant and as close-minded as you are and I could let the dislikes do the talking for me, but um..just in case anyone takes you a bit too seriously. I think it’s best that I educate the people.
Jesus Versus Muhammad, Peace be upon them…both cause both of them are Prophets of Islam. And for that reason I will respect both cause they were the best of men to have walked this Earth.
Muhammad Married A Minor?
In regards to your first allegation of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) marrying a minor. All I can say is that Islam is the only religion to actually prohibit the marriage of minors who have not reached the age of puberty.
Prohibited Consummation of Marriage with Prepubescent Persons
Quran 24:59, Quran 4:6
Prohibit the consummation of the individuals before they have reached the age of maturity, both physically and sexually.
The truth is in different times, in different places, in different contexts, the age for marriage varies, even in US States; you have states that allow 13 (New Hampshire), 14 (New York) and 15 (South Carolina).
What age do you recommend?
It varies.
And since this is Jesus versus Muhammad, lets compare it to the context of Jesus, with none other than the best of women to have walked this Earth - Mary (peace be upon her), the mother of Jesus.
(Read More Quran: Surah 19 Maryam)
Please Note
This is the Christian view. In Islam she did not marry.. Regardless such a marriage would have still been normal at the time.
She got married to Joseph (PBUH) who was 90 years old when she was only 12 years old.
(According to the Bible)
Matthew: A Shorter Commentary By Dale C. Allison Page 12.
In Different Times & At Different Places, Development Varies
You have to understand there is absolutely nothing wrong with this cause of different contexts and at different times, in places, people mature and develop differently.
570-633 AD Makkah
You cannot simply compare the time and place of Muhammad (PBUH) to the time and place we are living today.
2013 AD Sydney, Australia
Today we have iPhones, air conditioners and electric heaters, while in the time of Muhammad (PBUH) they were in the middle of the desert. You cannot simply compare the two.
And another really important thing to note is that Muhammad (PBUH) has been criticised ever since the time of Prophethood for an entire 1400 years, but it wasn’t until 1905, that the issue of his marriage with Aisha (R.A) actually became an issue.
Magician / Poet / Mad Man / Sooth Sayer
YouTube: Jonathan Brown, Prophet Muhammad Marriage with Aisha
Why is this?
Because it was an absolute norm. They had developed faster, matured faster and weren’t like the women of today.
Multiple Wives In Islam?
The next issue of multiple wives you brought up.
Firstly, read your bible.
Abraham.
Abraham + Sarah + Hagar
Genesis 16:6
How many wives did he have?
2 - Sarah and Hajar.
Prophet Solomon - 700 wives and 300 concubines.
The Holy Bible 1 Kings 11:1-3
The issue of multiple wives is a famous criticism but if you were to put the pieces to the puzzle they don’t really match, if Muhammad (PBUH) wanted all these wives to fulfil his own desires, it doesn’t really make sense when the tribe of his time offered him the best of women, the most beautiful and fancy of women, but he rejected them.
“Offered Women and Wealth To Stop Calling To Islam”
[As-Seerah An-Nabaweyyah, Ibn Hisham (Vol. 1, P.265-266)]
It really doesn’t make any sense. It’s also important to note that out of all of his wives, all of them were ex-divorcees or widows, except for one.
All Wives Were Divorcees or Widows - 1
This is not a man who was chasing after his desires, as you make him out to look like.
“The Best Of You In Character Is He Who Is Best To His Wife”
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)
It’s a man who cares about women that will be left with no other man to take care of them; it’s a man who cares about the importance of community, the importance of looking after one another.
And also another very important thing to note is that Islam actually prohibits the marriage to more than one wife.
“If You Fear That You Will Not Be Just, Then [Marry Only] One’
Quran 4:3
If you are incapable of catering physically, financially and mentally to more than one wife you are prohibited. And even still, if you are capable, you have the financial means and you are physically capable to cater for more than one woman, you are prohibited if you do not know how to deal justly with them.
US
30% Adultery
60% Adultery
And since you brought up the issue of adultery, I’m just gonna let you know that 30-60% of couples in the US, actually fall into infidelity and adultery.
Buss, D.M., and Shackelford, T.K (1997). Susceptibility To Infidelity In The First Year Of Marriage. Journal Of Research In Personality, 13, 193-221.
…Voice-over…
“You are not the Father” - FAIL.
I think you should have a problem with the actual issue of adultery in itself, I mean Tiger Woods wife ran after him with some Golf clubs.
What does that say?
And the actual punishment for adultery in Islam has rarely ever been implemented due to the sheer amount of evidence needed to prove a case of adultery.
Minimum 4 Righteous Witnesses
Quran 24:4
On so many instances a man would come to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and would say,
“I have committed adultery”.
Must Have Seen Actual Intercourse!!
Quran 24:4
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said,
“Get away from me, you’re a mad man, something is wrong with you”.
Self Confession Turned Away
Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 8.810
The same man came back he said,
“I have committed adultery, I want to get the punishment so I can purify myself”.
The whole purpose of the punishment of adultery isn’t to punish people; it is to deter them away from the issue of adultery.
Punishments As Deterrents
Seth. James, A Study Of Ethical Principles, Edinburgh (1911), PP.322-3
So if they knew such a punishment existed they would run away from it.
A Religion Of War & Violence
Another thing you mentioned, Jihad. And as much as you say that the bible doesn’t have verses on Jihad…
…Voice-over…
“After Church today, pull out your Bible and look up Psalms 137, and you’ll see that our own texts..has passages that can make us uncomfortable”.
YouTube: American Pastor Defends Islam
And Islam teaches Jihad too. And we don’t shy away from it. Contrary to what you said..
…Voice-over…
“War waging Muhammad having never being persecuted…”.
We were persecuted. The companions of Muhammad (PBUH) were tortured severely.
Sumaiya (R.A) First Ever Martyr In Islam Was A Female
Sumaiya (R.A), a female companion of Muhammad (PBUH) had a spear driven through her private part, simply cause she believed in Allah, believed in the One God.
Bilal Ibn Rabah (R.A) First Ever Black Muslim
Bilal, the first black man to accept the message of Islam. He was an Ethiopian slave, he accepted the message of Islam and he was given rights at a time when there were no rights for his people. He was tortured for this.
Even in USA, these people were not even given rights until 100 years ago, black people weren’t even considered human beings.
After many years of forbearance, after many years of persecution, after many years of torture, finally Allah had given permission to Muhammad (PBUH) to fight. Sure we can give them the other check, but that would only result in a whole lot of dead Muslims.
Permission [To Fight] Has Been Given To Those Who Are Being Fought, Because They Were Wronged.
Holy Quran [22:39]
So Islam gave them the rights to stand up for your self, as it says in the Quran, “Fight for the sake of the oppressed from the men, women and children”.
“Fight For…The Oppressed Among Men, Women, and Children”
Holy Quran [4:75]
And Islam even made responsibilities on everyone participating in war. You do not hurt the trees; you do not hurt the elderly, the children, the women.
Al-Muwatta, Volume 21, Hadith 9 and 10
Where are your ethics of war, like we have ethics of war?
…Voice-over President Barack Obama…
“I have two words for ya…Predator Drones”.
The children in Libya cannot even turn the other cheek; cause their cheeks blown off from your drones.
The Death of Muhammad (PBUH)
And lastly you wanted to talk about his death…
Yes, his final words were…
“Do not turn my grave into a place of worship”.
Cause he didn’t want people to start worshipping him. Cause the message of Islam, was never to turn Muhammad into a God or praise him excessively.
‘Do Not Exceed In Praising Me As The Christians Over-Praised Jesus. I Am A Bondsman Of Allah, Therefore, Call Me The Bondsman Of Allah’
Al-Tirmidhi 313:1
When Muhammad (PBUH) died the companions couldn’t walk, they couldn’t speak, they couldn’t talk with one another, they were so shattered, some of them had to deny that he was even dead, cause they couldn’t believe it, it was too much for them to grasp.
And you want to come out, make a mockery of his death. Shame on you.
In our religion it is prohibited, 100% prohibited to make a mockery out of anyone else’s belief. And you want to make a mockery out of ours. Shows what values you have.
‘And Do Not Insult Those They Invoke Other Than Allah, Lest They Insult Allah in Enmity Without Knowledge.’
Holy Quran [6:108]
And everyone else that had to watch this video, I’m sorry we had to go through this. But we really have to show the world who, Muhammad (PBUH) really was. He was nothing like what they say, rather he was the best of men to walk this Earth. And if you read his book for yourself, read his life, read his Seerah (biography), you will see for yourself what kind of man Muhammad (peace be upon him) was.
Thank you
…Voice-over Steven Crowder…
“The most controversial videos that I’ve ever done would have to be the Quran Challenge”.
It’s beginning to get really boring, it’s like whoever wants to get famous or make a name for themselves the first thing they do is go ahead and make a video on YouTube about the evil side of Islam or the evil prophet of War.
…Voice-over Steven Crowder…
“Islam the religion of Peace - Allahu - FAIL”
And I understand that you’re a minority and there’s not that many people like you that are as ignorant and as close-minded as you are and I could let the dislikes do the talking for me, but um..just in case anyone takes you a bit too seriously. I think it’s best that I educate the people.
Jesus Versus Muhammad, Peace be upon them…both cause both of them are Prophets of Islam. And for that reason I will respect both cause they were the best of men to have walked this Earth.
Muhammad Married A Minor?
In regards to your first allegation of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) marrying a minor. All I can say is that Islam is the only religion to actually prohibit the marriage of minors who have not reached the age of puberty.
Prohibited Consummation of Marriage with Prepubescent Persons
Quran 24:59, Quran 4:6
Prohibit the consummation of the individuals before they have reached the age of maturity, both physically and sexually.
The truth is in different times, in different places, in different contexts, the age for marriage varies, even in US States; you have states that allow 13 (New Hampshire), 14 (New York) and 15 (South Carolina).
What age do you recommend?
It varies.
And since this is Jesus versus Muhammad, lets compare it to the context of Jesus, with none other than the best of women to have walked this Earth - Mary (peace be upon her), the mother of Jesus.
(Read More Quran: Surah 19 Maryam)
Please Note
This is the Christian view. In Islam she did not marry.. Regardless such a marriage would have still been normal at the time.
She got married to Joseph (PBUH) who was 90 years old when she was only 12 years old.
(According to the Bible)
Matthew: A Shorter Commentary By Dale C. Allison Page 12.
In Different Times & At Different Places, Development Varies
You have to understand there is absolutely nothing wrong with this cause of different contexts and at different times, in places, people mature and develop differently.
570-633 AD Makkah
You cannot simply compare the time and place of Muhammad (PBUH) to the time and place we are living today.
2013 AD Sydney, Australia
Today we have iPhones, air conditioners and electric heaters, while in the time of Muhammad (PBUH) they were in the middle of the desert. You cannot simply compare the two.
And another really important thing to note is that Muhammad (PBUH) has been criticised ever since the time of Prophethood for an entire 1400 years, but it wasn’t until 1905, that the issue of his marriage with Aisha (R.A) actually became an issue.
Magician / Poet / Mad Man / Sooth Sayer
YouTube: Jonathan Brown, Prophet Muhammad Marriage with Aisha
Why is this?
Because it was an absolute norm. They had developed faster, matured faster and weren’t like the women of today.
Multiple Wives In Islam?
The next issue of multiple wives you brought up.
Firstly, read your bible.
Abraham.
Abraham + Sarah + Hagar
Genesis 16:6
How many wives did he have?
2 - Sarah and Hajar.
Prophet Solomon - 700 wives and 300 concubines.
The Holy Bible 1 Kings 11:1-3
The issue of multiple wives is a famous criticism but if you were to put the pieces to the puzzle they don’t really match, if Muhammad (PBUH) wanted all these wives to fulfil his own desires, it doesn’t really make sense when the tribe of his time offered him the best of women, the most beautiful and fancy of women, but he rejected them.
“Offered Women and Wealth To Stop Calling To Islam”
[As-Seerah An-Nabaweyyah, Ibn Hisham (Vol. 1, P.265-266)]
It really doesn’t make any sense. It’s also important to note that out of all of his wives, all of them were ex-divorcees or widows, except for one.
All Wives Were Divorcees or Widows - 1
This is not a man who was chasing after his desires, as you make him out to look like.
“The Best Of You In Character Is He Who Is Best To His Wife”
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)
It’s a man who cares about women that will be left with no other man to take care of them; it’s a man who cares about the importance of community, the importance of looking after one another.
And also another very important thing to note is that Islam actually prohibits the marriage to more than one wife.
“If You Fear That You Will Not Be Just, Then [Marry Only] One’
Quran 4:3
If you are incapable of catering physically, financially and mentally to more than one wife you are prohibited. And even still, if you are capable, you have the financial means and you are physically capable to cater for more than one woman, you are prohibited if you do not know how to deal justly with them.
US
30% Adultery
60% Adultery
And since you brought up the issue of adultery, I’m just gonna let you know that 30-60% of couples in the US, actually fall into infidelity and adultery.
Buss, D.M., and Shackelford, T.K (1997). Susceptibility To Infidelity In The First Year Of Marriage. Journal Of Research In Personality, 13, 193-221.
…Voice-over…
“You are not the Father” - FAIL.
I think you should have a problem with the actual issue of adultery in itself, I mean Tiger Woods wife ran after him with some Golf clubs.
What does that say?
And the actual punishment for adultery in Islam has rarely ever been implemented due to the sheer amount of evidence needed to prove a case of adultery.
Minimum 4 Righteous Witnesses
Quran 24:4
On so many instances a man would come to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and would say,
“I have committed adultery”.
Must Have Seen Actual Intercourse!!
Quran 24:4
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said,
“Get away from me, you’re a mad man, something is wrong with you”.
Self Confession Turned Away
Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 8.810
The same man came back he said,
“I have committed adultery, I want to get the punishment so I can purify myself”.
The whole purpose of the punishment of adultery isn’t to punish people; it is to deter them away from the issue of adultery.
Punishments As Deterrents
Seth. James, A Study Of Ethical Principles, Edinburgh (1911), PP.322-3
So if they knew such a punishment existed they would run away from it.
A Religion Of War & Violence
Another thing you mentioned, Jihad. And as much as you say that the bible doesn’t have verses on Jihad…
…Voice-over…
“After Church today, pull out your Bible and look up Psalms 137, and you’ll see that our own texts..has passages that can make us uncomfortable”.
YouTube: American Pastor Defends Islam
And Islam teaches Jihad too. And we don’t shy away from it. Contrary to what you said..
…Voice-over…
“War waging Muhammad having never being persecuted…”.
We were persecuted. The companions of Muhammad (PBUH) were tortured severely.
Sumaiya (R.A) First Ever Martyr In Islam Was A Female
Sumaiya (R.A), a female companion of Muhammad (PBUH) had a spear driven through her private part, simply cause she believed in Allah, believed in the One God.
Bilal Ibn Rabah (R.A) First Ever Black Muslim
Bilal, the first black man to accept the message of Islam. He was an Ethiopian slave, he accepted the message of Islam and he was given rights at a time when there were no rights for his people. He was tortured for this.
Even in USA, these people were not even given rights until 100 years ago, black people weren’t even considered human beings.
After many years of forbearance, after many years of persecution, after many years of torture, finally Allah had given permission to Muhammad (PBUH) to fight. Sure we can give them the other check, but that would only result in a whole lot of dead Muslims.
Permission [To Fight] Has Been Given To Those Who Are Being Fought, Because They Were Wronged.
Holy Quran [22:39]
So Islam gave them the rights to stand up for your self, as it says in the Quran, “Fight for the sake of the oppressed from the men, women and children”.
“Fight For…The Oppressed Among Men, Women, and Children”
Holy Quran [4:75]
And Islam even made responsibilities on everyone participating in war. You do not hurt the trees; you do not hurt the elderly, the children, the women.
Al-Muwatta, Volume 21, Hadith 9 and 10
Where are your ethics of war, like we have ethics of war?
…Voice-over President Barack Obama…
“I have two words for ya…Predator Drones”.
The children in Libya cannot even turn the other cheek; cause their cheeks blown off from your drones.
The Death of Muhammad (PBUH)
And lastly you wanted to talk about his death…
Yes, his final words were…
“Do not turn my grave into a place of worship”.
Cause he didn’t want people to start worshipping him. Cause the message of Islam, was never to turn Muhammad into a God or praise him excessively.
‘Do Not Exceed In Praising Me As The Christians Over-Praised Jesus. I Am A Bondsman Of Allah, Therefore, Call Me The Bondsman Of Allah’
Al-Tirmidhi 313:1
When Muhammad (PBUH) died the companions couldn’t walk, they couldn’t speak, they couldn’t talk with one another, they were so shattered, some of them had to deny that he was even dead, cause they couldn’t believe it, it was too much for them to grasp.
And you want to come out, make a mockery of his death. Shame on you.
In our religion it is prohibited, 100% prohibited to make a mockery out of anyone else’s belief. And you want to make a mockery out of ours. Shows what values you have.
‘And Do Not Insult Those They Invoke Other Than Allah, Lest They Insult Allah in Enmity Without Knowledge.’
Holy Quran [6:108]
And everyone else that had to watch this video, I’m sorry we had to go through this. But we really have to show the world who, Muhammad (PBUH) really was. He was nothing like what they say, rather he was the best of men to walk this Earth. And if you read his book for yourself, read his life, read his Seerah (biography), you will see for yourself what kind of man Muhammad (peace be upon him) was.
Thank you